War on peasants.

[NorthernWind]

It's ironic how commies cried about workers, bad working conditions but ignored suffering of peasants, villagers.
(((They))) never cared about agriculture.

Meanwhile, peasants probably were real victims of industrialization and expanding capitalism. They were forced to relocate into cities and wageslave at factories.

Of course, even now there are successful peasants but they are very small in numbers.
'Intellectuals' also seemed to rarely care about suffering of peasants focusing on workers, various minorities and women, of course.

 

[go2sleep]

Low IQ.

 

[To koniec]

true holomodor is good example of this !

 

[NorthernWind]

High IQ.

 

[NorthernWind]

true holomodor is good example of this !

Famine in Ukraine was a part of a Soviet famine which occurred in various regions of USSR.
And famine in USSR , undoubtedly, was caused by a poor state of world's economy in the beginning of 1930s.
The idea that Stalin wanted to get rid of the Ukrainians in a policization of history.
For example, Japanese rural communities were hit by famine in 1934. Is this also a Stalin's work?

 

[worrycel]

idk

 

[Emba]

My ground is to clay to grow peanuts

 

[DeathIsSalvation]

Low IQ.

 

[Max Doltman]

My ground is to clay to grow peanuts

gm

 

[Emba]

gm

More like gn!

 

[Linesnap99]

they alos got replaced by machines who can do the jobs faster and cut cost. peasants are low iq filthy swines, they should enlighten themself and stop having kids

 

[slavcel11]

And famine in USSR , undoubtedly, was caused by a poor state of world's economy in the beginning of 1930s.

Thing is, you have to try really hard to make a country like Russia famish during peacetime. Russian Empire tried multiple times and failed. But bolsheviks nailed it spectacularly. Also read about how they decimated almost all the livestock in soviet central asia. Pure class.

 

[RandomGuy]

It's ironic how commies cried about workers, bad working conditions but ignored suffering of peasants, villagers.
(((They))) never cared about agriculture.

Meanwhile, peasants probably were real victims of industrialization and expanding capitalism. They were forced to relocate into cities and wageslave at factories.

Of course, even now there are successful peasants but they are very small in numbers.
'Intellectuals' also seemed to rarely care about suffering of peasants focusing on workers, various minorities and women, of course.

Blackpill at the end.


View: https://youtu.be/gfdnbMd9BiE?si=rWHsTblDzTst21rK

 

[Confessor]

It's ironic how commies cried about workers, bad working conditions but ignored suffering of peasants, villagers.
(((They))) never cared about agriculture.

Meanwhile, peasants probably were real victims of industrialization and expanding capitalism. They were forced to relocate into cities and wageslave at factories.

Of course, even now there are successful peasants but they are very small in numbers.
'Intellectuals' also seemed to rarely care about suffering of peasants focusing on workers, various minorities and women, of course.

'Intellectuals' = Jewish subverters who wish to destroy a society.

 

[NorthernWind]

Thing is, you have to try really hard to make a country like Russia famish during peacetime. Russian Empire tried multiple times and failed. But bolsheviks nailed it spectacularly. Also read about how they decimated almost all the livestock in soviet central asia. Pure class.

I'm not telling that soviet politics didn't contributed to famine but ignoring the fact that it was very hard time for the whole world is dumb.
Also famines regularly happened even in prosperous countries till the end of XIX century ( or even till the beginning of XX century ) and soviet union already experienced hardship in 1920s during and after the civil war.
Plus industrialization and collectivisation.
But, undoubtedly, without the great depression which struck the whole world, famine in USSR wouldn't be so devastating.

 

[NorthernWind]

Blackpill at the end.


View: https://youtu.be/gfdnbMd9BiE?si=rWHsTblDzTst21rK

I didn't trust Noam Chomsky.

 

[slavcel11]

I'm not telling that soviet politics didn't contributed to famine but ignoring the fact that it was very hard time for the whole world is dumb.

Actually retarded soviet regulations contributed to famine the most. If you look at Russian Empire that had multiple successive crop failures at the turn of the century, not once did it cause famine of the same scale.

 

[NorthernWind]

Actually retarded soviet regulations contributed to famine the most. If you look at Russian Empire that had multiple successive crop failures at the turn of the century, not once did it cause famine of the same scale.

I'm not a specialist.
According to Kazakh authors, famine already happened in 1928. In 1928-1930 famine also struck three provinces in China which weren't under commie control.
Again, history is not mathematics and it's impossible to determine whether this famine was 100% creation of soviet rulers or some other external factors contributed to this famine. But famine in China shows that famine in the USSR wasn't an isolated incident.

 

[slavcel11]

I'm not a specialist.
According to Kazakh authors, famine already happened in 1928. In 1928-1930 famine also struck three provinces in China which weren't under commie control.
Again, history is not mathematics and it's impossible to determine whether this famine was 100% creation of soviet rulers or some other external factors contributed to this famine. But famine in China shows that famine in the USSR wasn't an isolated incident.

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Soviets literally slaugthered about 90% of livestock in kazakhstan, while carrying out forcible collectivization in european parts. Thus destroying their sustenance. It was caused by soviet inept planning and short-sighted policies, and it wasn't predetermined.

 

[NorthernWind]

Soviets literally slaugthered about 90% of livestock in kazakhstan, while carrying out forcible collectivization in european parts. Thus destroying their sustenance. It was caused by soviet inept planning and short-sighted policies, and it wasn't predetermined.

B-but holodomor was an ultimate evil like holocaust, carried by Stalin because he wanted to wipe off Ukrainians.

I need to read something serious on this period of history. But Ukrainian version seems to be too politicized to actually take it seriously.

Soviets wouldn't be able to occupy almost half of Europe and oppose geopolitically USA and the West, if all anti-soviet myths were real.
Just think logically. 10 million deaths in Russian civil war ( this number is the most realistic, actually ). 10 millions according to some western scholar in 1921-1922 famine.
7-10 million death toll in holodomor ( in Ukraine only! ).
Tens of millions victims of Stalin's repressions ( according to haters of the Soviets ).
20-30 millions lost in WW2 ( quite realistic ).
I don't even mention 1946-1947 famine.

So if the believe in anti-soviet myths, USSR lost ~ 80 millions people including the best people, the best men, and somehow was able to control almost all east Europe, support leftists around the world and oppose the west till the end of 1980s?
It's just absurd.
According to 1937 Soviet census, there were only 162 million people in USSR. And workers who conducted this census were labelled as 'enemies of the people' so we can conclude that these numbers were mostly correct.
And somehow after such huge losses Soviets haven't crumbled in 1950s?
It's just impossible.

 

[slavcel11]

B-but holodomor was an ultimate evil like holocaust, carried by Stalin because he wanted to wipe off Ukrainians.

I need to read something serious on this period of history. But Ukrainian version seems to be too politicized to actually take it seriously.

Soviets wouldn't be able to occupy almost half of Europe and oppose geopolitically USA and the West, if all anti-soviet myths were real.
Just think logically. 10 million deaths in Russian civil war ( this number is the most realistic, actually ). 10 millions according to some western scholar in 1921-1922 famine.
7-10 million death toll in holodomor ( in Ukraine only! ).
Tens of millions victims of Stalin's repressions ( according to haters of the Soviets ).
20-30 millions lost in WW2 ( quite realistic ).
I don't even mention 1946-1947 famine.

So if the believe in anti-soviet myths, USSR lost ~ 80 millions people including the best people, the best men, and somehow was able to control almost all east Europe, support leftists around the world and oppose the west till the end of 1980s?
It's just absurd.
According to 1937 Soviet census, there were only 162 million people in USSR. And workers who conducted this census were labelled as 'enemies of the people' so we can conclude that these numbers were mostly correct.
And somehow after such huge losses Soviets haven't crumbled in 1950s?
It's just impossible.

Of course some of those numbers are overblown. It's clear however that the total loses of USSR from WWII should be lower that those from the preceding decades of soviet mismanagement and malign anti-national policies and repressions. And some (modern) commenters believe that soviet military loses in WWII as cited by the recent official (mis)calculations are vastly underestimated, while total loses are overestimated. Not to mention that, under a totalitarian regime nurtured in the absence of the notion of civil rights and legality numerous facts of mass deaths or evictions or repressions or whatever can be generally swept under the rug.